How could a young Ukrainian's killing change the U.S?

一位年轻乌克兰人的遇害如何能改变美国?

Americast

2025-09-11

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On Tuesday Decarlos Brown Jr was arrested and charged with first-degree murder over the unprovoked attack on Iryna Zarutska on a train in Charlotte, North Carolina, last month. A video of Zarutska's killing has been circulated - and shared widely - on social media, including by key MAGA figures like Stephen Miller and Elon Musk. It has prompted a widespread debate over crime in American cities, a topic that Donald Trump has cited frequently in his attacks against the Democrats. Iryna's family have said they are "heartbroken beyond words" and asked people to stop sharing a video showing her final moments. Justin and Sarah look at how Zarutska's killing, and the subsequent public outrage, could change America's approach to public safety, and whether it might affect the upcoming election in North Carolina. HOSTS: * Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter * Sarah Smith, North America Editor GET IN TOUCH: * Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB * Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480 * Email Americast@bbc.co.uk * Or use #Americast This episode was made by George Dabby with Alix Pickles and Rufus Gray. The technical producer was Michael Regaard. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app. You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers. US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155 Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast and Ukrainecast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below. Newscast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl Ukrainecast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0bqztzm Radical: BBC Sounds - Radical with Amol Rajan - Available Episodes
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  • It is just one crime,

  • but it was a particularly horrifying crime and it's now being talked of around the United States.

  • There is horrifying video footage.

  • of the stabbing of a young Ukrainian woman she had come to America to escape the war,

  • sitting on a train in the city of Charlotte, North Carolina.

  • The video was released.

  • It has been shared hugely,

  • including by some of the most influential figures in the MAGA movement,

  • Donald Trump's key supporters.

  • They have been asking questions, reasonable questions, perhaps,

  • about why the crime was not originally much reported in America's media.

  • It has opened a can of worms on issues relating to race,

  • to the media itself, to crime, to the state of America's major cities.

  • Donald Trump blames the Democrats.

  • Once again, they're on the defensive.

  • What is the real story?

  • Welcome to America's.

  • You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

  • You're gambling with World War III.

  • President Trump's message is very simple.