'The Interview': Brené Brown Doesn’t Want to Be a Self-Help Guru Anymore

《访谈》:布伦·布朗不再想成为自我帮助大师

The Daily

2025-09-06

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The author and podcaster wants to apply her old ideas about vulnerability and empathy to the workplace. Thoughts? Email us at theinterview@nytimes.comWatch our show on YouTube: youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcastFor transcripts and more, visit: nytimes.com/theinterview  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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  • Hi, I'm Joel from the New York Times games team, and I'm out here talking to people about games.

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  • The Mini.

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  • Strands.

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  • I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

  • Most academics do not become global celebrities.

  • But in 2010, Brene Brown, a longtime professor of social work at the University of Houston,

  • gave a TEDx talk about her research on shame,

  • empathy, and courage called The Power of Vulnerability.

  • In it, she made the case for why people should get comfortable with being uncomfortable,

  • and it turned her life upside down.