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My husband said, your dad's been killed.
This is Hands Tide, a true crime podcast exploring the murder of Jim Melgar.
I was just completely in shock.
Liz's father murdered.
And her mother found locked in a closet, her hands and feet bound.
I didn't feel real at all.
More than a decade on, she's still searching for answers.
We're still fighting.
Listen to Hands Tide on the iHeart radio app.
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My name is Becca Warner.
I'm an environmental journalist based in Berlin.
Today, I've travelled north to Hamburg with my producer Tom.
Now, this programme's all about deforestation, and I don't know about you,
but when I think about saving the world's forests, the city of Hamburg isn't what springs to mind.
But there's someone here I really want to meet, a man known as Germany's timber detective.
So it's through there?
There's got to be an entrance around here.
Do you know what I mean?