After globalisation: What's next for a fractured world? With Neil Shearing

全球化之后:破碎世界的下一步是什么?——对话尼尔·谢里夫

The Economics Show

2025-09-01

31 分钟
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It’s a widely held assumption that US President Donald Trump has put globalisation into reverse. But Neil Shearing, group chief economist at Capital Economics and author of The Fractured Age: How the Return of Geopolitics Will Splinter the Global Economy, tells the FT’s world trade editor Peter Foster that Trump’s policies are a symptom and not the cause of the global trading system unravelling. They discuss how economic rivalry between the US and China is reshaping world trade – and where it might lead. Peter Foster is the FT’s world trade editor. You can read his articles here Book your FT Weekend Festival tickets here Subscribe to The Economics Show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Presented by Peter Foster. Produced by Josh Gabert-Doyon. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Original music and sound design by Samantha Giovinco and Breen Turner. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • The world is in a messy transition, from a globally integrated system to, well, who knows?

  • That was the diagnosis of Singapore's Prime Minister earlier this year.

  • And here's how the Polish Premier Donald Tusk put it not long after.

  • He said the era of naive globalisation was coming to an end,

  • with nations turning inward and prioritising their own narrow interests.

  • No one doubted those comments were a swipe at America,

  • because it's a truth almost universally acknowledged that President Trump has put globalization into reverse.

  • But my guest on the show today sees it rather differently.

  • He argues Trump's policies are a symptom and not a cause of the unraveling,

  • or is it the re-raveling, of the global trading order.

  • Welcome to The Economic Show from The Financial Times.

  • I'm Peter Foster, the FT's World Trade Editor.

  • And my guest today is Neil Shearing, a familiar name to the thousands of executives,

  • policymakers and investment professionals who read his research every week.

  • Because Neil is the Group Chief Economist at Capital Economics, the global research firm,

  • and in another life, he was an advisor to the UK Treasury.

  • Neil, welcome to the show.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • We hear lots of talk, don't we, about decoupling,

  • deglobalisation, but I think you paint a more nuanced picture in this book,