2025-09-01
1 小时 49 分钟Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast,
where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life.
I'm Andrew Huberman,
and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
My guest today is Alex Honnold.
Alex Honnold is a professional rock climber.
He's best known for successfully free soloing,
meaning climbing with no ropes or latching on of any kind,
El Capitan, also called El Cap, which is a nearly 3,000 foot climb in Yosemite National Park.
It was also, of course, the topic and focus of the incredible movie Free Solo,
which if you haven't seen, you absolutely should watch.
I've wanted to talk to Alex for a long time now.
I'm not a rock climber.
I've tried it a few times,
but I've been extremely curious to understand Alex's mental frame around learning and training and his broader philosophy on life.
My interest stems from the fact that Alex's free solo of El Cap and his other climbs make him one of the most accomplished and innovative athletes in all of history.
And of course, the free solo of El Cap is extremely high risk and high consequence.
Today,
we discuss how to envision and make progress towards your goals and how to merge the demands of daily work and family life with incremental training for spectacularly big or long challenges of any kind.
Alex makes clear that it's essential and possible to build your capacity to exert effort and how to do that in a regimented way so