What will become of the CIA under President Trump? With Tim Wiener

特朗普总统下,中央情报局将何去何从?——与蒂姆·维纳对谈

Intelligence Squared

2025-08-31

48 分钟
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Pulitzer-prize winning journalist Tim Weiner has been chronicling the history of the CIA for more than two decades. His new book, The Mission charts the agency’s successes and failings, from 9-11 to the present day. In this episode, he sat down with Carl Miller to talk about the agency’s notorious post 9-11 torture programmes, its key role in supporting Ukraine, the threat posed by China and Russia and the hard job of espionage in an age of technical surveillance. They also discussed the disorientating impact of the Trump administration, and what happens to the CIA when the threat is coming from above.  Tim Weiner is an award-winning author and reporter. The Mission: The CIA in the 21st Century is out now.  If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.

  • In today's episode,

  • Pulitzer Prize winner Tim Weiner joins us to discuss the gripping history of the CIA in the 21st century.

  • Reaching from 9-11 through the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to today's battle with Russia and China,

  • Weiner reveals how the agency fought to rebuild the espionage powers it lost during the war on terror and finally succeeded in penetrating the Kremlin.

  • In conversation with Carl Miller,

  • Weiner draws on unprecedented interviews with six former CIA directors, 13 station chiefs,

  • and scores of top spies who served undercover for decades and have never spoken to journalists before.

  • Let's join the conversation now with Carl Miller.

  • All right, well, hello, everyone,

  • and very welcome to this Intelligence Squared episode with me, Carl Miller.

  • I'm delighted to introduce our guest today, Tim Weiner.

  • Tim has, well, he's won the Pulitzer Prize, amongst other things,

  • and he's the author of Legacy of Ashes, The History of the CIA, which won the National Book Award.

  • He's the author of a number of other books as well,

  • and now also The Mission, The CIA in the 21st Century.

  • Tim, extremely warm welcome to you.

  • Thank you.

  • So, Tim, the CIA is obviously a very storied institution.