Human-Kind or Human Evil with Rutger Bregman

人本善良还是人性邪恶——与布鲁格曼对话

What Now? with Trevor Noah

2025-03-06

1 小时 21 分钟
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Historian and author Rutger Bregman joins Trevor and Christiana to debate ethics and the possibility of a better world. Are human beings innately good? Innately selfish? Which is better to move the human race forward? Which sows the seeds of our own demise?
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  • So I've got a toddler of three years old,

  • and if my toddler would compete with a pig with quite a few tasks where intelligence is being measured,

  • you know, the toddler would actually lose.

  • I'd watch that, by the way.

  • Great TV show.

  • I'm just like, that's great TV.

  • We need to make that a show.

  • Sounds like a Japanese TV show, like The Toddler and the Pig.

  • Toddler vs. Pig.

  • Which one shops better?

  • I'm actually in for the show.

  • We're going to make the show.

  • Toddler vs. Pig.

  • This is What Now?

  • with Trevor Noah.

  • Rutger, welcome to the podcast.

  • I was thinking about having you on and I was like, do you get invited back anyway?

  • This is the thing I found myself asking.

  • Well, you invited me back, Trevor.

  • Well, I mean, yeah, but I don't think you've ever said anything against me.