The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

焦虑一代:与乔纳森·海蒂对话

What Now? with Trevor Noah

2025-05-15

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Jonathan Haidt, noted social psychologist and author of The Anxious Generation, sits down with Trevor and Christiana to discuss how smartphones and social media are harming Gen Z – and really all of us. He encourages claiming back third spaces, championing anti-fragility, and … maybe letting your kid go take a walk.
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  • We've created a world where the barrier to entry for some of the things that we've agreed on as some of the most harmful to younger kids,

  • the barrier to entry is zero.

  • It's literally, you click a button that says, I am 18 or older.

  • And I remember the first time I saw that button when I wasn't 18,

  • I was on a computer game called Leisure Suit Larry.

  • I don't know if you've ever heard of this game.

  • No, I haven't heard of it.

  • So, it was a story of this man, Leisure Suit Larry.

  • Whose only goal was to have sex.

  • That's all he was trying to do.

  • And you get points for the number of times.

  • And you played this game.

  • I remember the first one, you were just at a bar.

  • And you would type on the computer, like, open door, knock on door.

  • And the bouncer would be like, what's the code?

  • And you're like, what is the code?

  • But when I think about this world, I think about the option is like,

  • in the game, it would say to you at the beginning, are you 18 or older?

  • And I said, no. I was honest.

  • I was like, no. And the game was like, you're not old enough to play.