Will the Democrats go "dark woke" to take on Trump?

民主党是否会采取“暗黑觉醒”的策略来对抗特朗普?

Americast

2025-08-29

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Sharing AI-generated images of himself riding a horse, waving a giant flag, inserting his face on Mount Rushmore...sound familiar? If you're California Governor Gavin Newsom, that's entirely the point as he embarks on a new strategy to combat Donald Trump online, by imitating him. It’s all part of a “dark woke” strategy which sees Newsom playing Trump at his own game on social media. Is the approach an online blueprint for the wider Democratic Party, and what are the risks for taking on the president so directly? HOSTS: • Sarah Smith, North America Editor • Anthony Zurcher, North America Correspondent • Marianna Spring, Social Media Investigations Correspondent GET IN TOUCH: • Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB • Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480 • Email Americast@bbc.co.uk • Or use #Americast This episode was made by George Dabby with Rufus Gray and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is George Dabby. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app. You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers. US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155 Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast and Ukrainecast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below. Newscast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl Ukrainecast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0bqztzm Radical: BBC Sounds - Radical with Amol Rajan - Available Episodes
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  • BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts.

  • On the podcast today, we're going to be talking about Gavin Newsom,

  • the California governor who has come up with a bold new strategy that some people are calling dark woke.

  • So we'll be asking what it means when he's taking the fight to Donald Trump online in very Trumpian terms.

  • Sadly,

  • we have to start with yet another school shooting that's happened in America in a church in Minneapolis on Wednesday morning.

  • This is Thursday morning U.S. time when we're recording this.

  • Anthony, bring us up to date with what we know so far.

  • Well, we know that there have been two deaths.

  • Two children were killed in this shooting.

  • It was at a school that is affiliated with a church.

  • It happened during a morning mass proceedings.

  • The assailant also subsequently.

  • killed himself uh we know the name of that assailant we have a little bit of background on motivations but it seems like uh there was no political agenda to this uh but the investigations are ongoing the the weapons that the assailant purchased uh were done so legally police have discovered more weapons in different different homes and facilities uh so it is uh obviously a tragic another tragic shooting in this country,

  • one that brings back memories of Sandy Hook,

  • the elementary school in Connecticut where someone went in and killed more than a dozen,

  • I believe, schoolchildren there.

  • And Donald Trump and other public officials have made public statements about it.

  • The flags are flying.

  • half-masked at the White House and in federal buildings.