Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafrir.
And I'm Elise Hu, and we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Welcome back to the show.
Boy, do we have a good one for you in store today.
You know, sometimes we get pitched guests, and I'm like,
wow, this person wants to come on our little old show?
Our humble?
our show yeah and then they're like i've been listening to your show for years and i'm
like you have like i gasped when when i heard her say
like i've been listening to this show for years
because uh yeah she's such a legend she's such a legend we have ladies and gents on our show today the one and only eugene carroll i mean I mean,
the thing about E. Jean is like, she was iconic even before all of the Trump bullshit happened.
She's in a different stratosphere now.
She's in a different stratosphere.
And she's one of the few people who's taken on Donald Trump and won in court.
And her book is like, it's so, it's a wild ride, I will say.
I think Elise is laughing because it seems weird to say, but the book is very funny.
It's like, you don't, you're like, should I be laughing at this?
No, she meant for it to be.