Frontline special: Ian Garner, Russian propaganda specialist

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  Hello and welcome to Frontline for Times Radio.

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  I'm Louis Sykes.

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  Today we're speaking to Ian Garner,

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  professor at the Pilecki Institute in Warsaw and a recent re-edition to the Russian Federation's entry ban list.

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  Ian, thank you very much for joining us.

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  Before we get into the latest on the war in Ukraine,

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  you've been added or re-added to the Kremlin's entry ban list for the Russian Federation.

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  What can you tell us about that list and how you've become a target of the Kremlin?

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  Yeah, for sure.

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  So, I mean,

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  the Kremlin has been producing these lists of foreigners to ban who can't enter the territory of the Russian Federation should they want to,

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  which right now I definitely don't.

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