2025-08-25
40 分钟You're listening to How to Be a Better Human.
I am your host, Chris Duffy.
All of us experience winter.
Now, you might be saying, Chris, don't you live in Los Angeles,
a part of Southern California that famously does not really experience winter?
And to that,
I would say you are technically correct if we're talking about purely a meteorological winter.
I haven't pulled out a winter coat or seen snow falling on my house since I moved here.
That's true.
Often in January in L.A.,
I see someone wearing a heavy sweater on the street and then right next to them,
someone wearing just shorts and a tank top.
So, you know, winter is not always just the temperature.
Sometimes winter can be a state of mind.
And I'm joking about that, but I'm also not joking because winter really is an emotional season.
It can be a state of experience.
And what we're going to talk about on the show today is that metaphorical winter.
Because our guest is the brilliant writer Catherine May,
author of Wintering, The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times.
To frame our conversation, to talk about these metaphorical winters,