Welcome to The World in 10.
In an increasingly uncertain world, this is The Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security.
Today with me, Tom Noonan and Stuart Willey.
For half of the 20th century,
the world lived in fear that nuclear weapons could spell the end of human civilization.
While that fear may have eased in recent decades, here in the 21st century,
concerns about artificial intelligence have rapidly climbed the list of potential threats to our survival.
Now, a leading arms control monitor is warning the combination of these two forces...
could accidentally trigger a nuclear war.
That warning comes from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute and their artificial intelligence specialist,
Jules Pallier, is our guest to unpack it all.
Jules, the risk and the uncertainty you say is greater than ever.
So what is driving this?
So what we are seeing is that...
There is an increasing interest in military artificial intelligence.
And AI in the military has many, many uses,
one of which is increasing the autonomy in weapon systems.
But what is interesting is that AI is also used in what is called decision support systems.
In daily life, these systems are very common.
You know, they help us choose what podcast to listen to, what movies we should watch.