2025-08-19
55 分钟Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast.
I've brought you somebody who is not only a personal friend, but somebody you need to listen to.
If you're listening to this podcast,
I know you do because you want to improve the next conversation.
Well, this is somebody who's going to help you do that.
This is Vanessa Van Edwards.
If she looks familiar to you, it's probably because she's been everywhere.
If she's been on anything, it's a million podcasts and for a good reason.
Vanessa is a behavioral investigator, is I think the way she would describe it.
She is an author of several books.
She's the founder of Science of People.
It's a wonderful website that we're going to be talking about later of how to get into that and get more classes from her.
All about how do you talk about charisma?
How do you improve first impressions?
How do you deal with behavior in a conversation that's going to help you enrich your life?
Vanessa, thanks for coming.
Thanks for having me.
It's so good to see you even through the screen.
I know.
I was saying earlier, it takes a podcast for us to see each other again.