Harvard’s “Mother of Mindfulness” on the Unbelievable Mind-Body Connection

哈佛“正念之母”谈难以置信的心身联系

Radio Headspace

2025-08-17

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Dr. Ellen J. Langer — Harvard’s first tenured female psychology professor, bestselling author, and the world‑renowned “Mother of Mindfulness” — joins Rosie to explore the unbelievable mind-body connection. Hear how her groundbreaking research reveals that our thoughts can shape our health, aging, and even healing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Fact of the matter is, nobody knows.

  • You can't know because everything is changing.

  • Hey everyone, it's Rosie here.

  • Welcome back to Radio Headspace.

  • Today I'm joined by Dr. Ellen Langer,

  • a Harvard psychologist who spent decades studying the mind-body connection.

  • It's an incredibly fascinating theory that thoughts don't just influence your body,

  • they are your body.

  • And trust me, I had many questions and she answered all of them.

  • We talk about why healing isn't just physical,

  • how shifting your perspective can lead to real change in your mind and body,

  • and why embracing uncertainty might be one of the healthiest things you can do.

  • This was a very eye-opening conversation for me, and I hope you enjoy it.

  • So one of the one of the things that I wanted to discuss with you today,

  • you've said that changing your perspective is teachable, right?

  • But being uncomfortable with uncertainty is definitely easier said than done.

  • So how do you encourage people to follow this idea of like questioning everything?

  • Okay, well, first of all, people want to be happy.

  • And if you ask yourself, can a robot be happy?

  • The question is silly, right?