GPT-5 Backlash + Perplexity C.E.O. Aravind Srinivas on the Browser Wars + Hot Mess Express

GPT-5 反弹 + 难度 CEO 阿兰温·斯里尼瓦森谈浏览器之战 + 热乱快车

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2025-08-15

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OpenAI spent the week responding to outcry from users who miss the behavior of the old ChatGPT, before the latest flagship model was released. We discuss the criticism, why it caught the company by surprise and what it indicates about the deepening emotional relationships that people are forming with chatbots. Then, Aravind Srinivas, the chief executive of Perplexity AI, joins us to discuss his company’s new artificial intelligence-powered browser, Comet; his company’s bid to buy Google Chrome; and what the future of the internet looks like when users turn to A.I. assistants to browse the web for them. Finally, to cap it all off, we rate the craziest tech stories of the week in our game Hot Mess Express. Guests: Aravind Srinivas, chief executive of Perplexity AI.Additional Reading: Chatbots Can Go Into a Delusional Spiral. Here’s How It Happens.Three Big Lessons From the GPT-5 BacklashA.I. Start-Up Perplexity Offers to Buy Google’s Chrome Browser for $34.5 BillionElon Musk Threatens to Sue Apple Over Claims It Favors OpenAIU.S. Government to Take Cut of Nvidia and AMD A.I. Chip Sales to China Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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  • Over the last two decades, the world has witnessed incredible progress.

  • From dial-up modems to 5G connectivity,

  • from massive PC towers to AI-enabled microchips, innovators are rethinking possibilities every day.

  • I saw something new this week.

  • What'd you see?

  • So I was on a flight.

  • I went to the East Coast for a wedding last weekend.

  • And on the flight back, I saw a woman.

  • play Bellatro, the mobile phone game, for six hours.

  • Honestly,

  • one of the least surprising things you've ever said to me on this podcast

  • because I've absolutely played Bellatro for multiple hours in a row.

  • She did not look up.

  • She did not get a drink.

  • She did not go to the bathroom.

  • She was locked in to her phone for the entire flight.

  • And I think this game should be outlawed.

  • I've never even really played Bellatra.

  • You tried to get me into it.

  • But something that they're putting in that game is driving people to madness.