Climate special: How to fix the climate crisis with Tim Lenton and Kate Marvel

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New Scientist Podcasts

2025-08-15

44 分钟
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Episode 316 “All of the other planets out there are just complete garbage. The Earth is the only good place.” – Kate Marvel The climate crisis can leave many of us feeling hopeless and overwhelmed. But, as climate scientists Kate Marvel and Tim Lenton say, there are many reasons to be optimistic.Both have new books out that hope to reframe the way we think about the issue. Kate’s book Human Nature grapples with the complicated emotions that the climate crisis evokes, from anger to hope and love – and explores how we can harness each of them to fight for a better future. Tim’s book Positive Tipping Points looks at the possibility that we may cause irreversible damage to the Earth’s climate system, from Amazon dieback to ice sheet collapse. But as the name suggests, he also examines the opportunities in leveraging global action against climate change to create “positive tipping points”. Chapters: (0:00) Intro (01:26) Why Tim and Kate have dedicated their lives to climate science (3:53) Exploring Kate’s book Human Nature - starting with anger (6:33) How Tim channels his climate anger (10:16) Processing the 9 emotions of Kate’s book (13:10) What are negative tipping points? (15:33) How to use positive tipping points (21:13) Where can we find hope for change right now? (23:16) The positive emotions that inspire climate action (26:50) Kate’s process of writing (29:52) Why non-violent campaigns are so effective (35:19) Have we seen any of these positive tipping points yet? (39:31) How Americans really feel about climate change (40:46) Kate and Tim’s dream outcomes for their books Hosted by Rowan Hooper and Madeleine Cuff, with guests Kate Marvel and Tim Lenton. To read more about these stories, visit https://www.newscientist.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Hello, welcome to a special episode of The World, the Universe and Us from New Scientist.

  • I'm Rowan Hooper.

  • And I'm Madeleine Cuff.

  • Yes, we've got a special episode today because we are going to solve the climate crisis.

  • We don't shy away from a challenge at New Scientist.

  • No biggie.

  • But are we, we're not really going to solve it, are we?

  • Well, we're going to discuss how to feel about it and yeah, potentially how we can fix it as well.

  • Yeah, we're not going to do that alone.

  • We're joined by two renowned climate scientists.

  • Kate Marvel is a climate scientist in New York.

  • She investigates and promotes science-based solutions to climate change.

  • And our other guest is Tim Lenton,

  • who's Professor of Climate Change and Earth System Science at the University of Exeter in the UK.

  • And the reason we've got these two on the show is that both scientists have spent years thinking about and modelling how our planet is going to react and adapt to increasing greenhouse gases.

  • And both have just written books to distill their thinking over the years on this.

  • crucial matter and both books i think it's fair to say have a positive message kate's book is human nature nine ways to feel about our changing planet and tim's has even got the word positive in the title his book is called positive tipping points how to fix the climate crisis so what we're going to do is talk through some of the findings that you both have made during your work on these books and hopefully we can come away a bit so invigorated about tackling this issue.

  • Yeah.

  • I thought we'd start with a bit of background from you two.

  • I wondered if there was a sort of origin story.