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Overthink

2025-07-29

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Aperol spritzes, ‘Euro summers’, and aesthetic beach pics. In episode 135 of Overthink, Ellie and David discuss all things travel. They discuss the differences how travel changes our relationship to the place where we're from, the difference between travel and tourism, and the place of travel in the history of philosophy. They go from Plato’s views that young people shouldn’t travel to Jean-Jacques Rousseau’s belief that travel is essential for turning boys into men. They also explore the question, why do humans love to travel so much? In the bonus, your hosts debate over their relationships to phones and taking photos while travelling and dive deeper into what it’s like to experience culture shock.   Works Discussed:  Francis Bacon, “On Travel” Agnes Callard, “Against Travel” Paul Fussell, Abroad Michel de Montaigne, “On Cannibals” Plato, The Republic Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Emile George Santayana, “The Philosophy of Travel” Joseph Shaules, The Intercultural Mind: Connecting Culture, Cognition, and Global Living Emily Thomas, The Meaning of Travel: Philosophers Abroad Support the show Patreon | patreon.com/overthinkpodcast Website | overthinkpodcast.com Instagram & Twitter | @overthink_pod Email | dearoverthink@gmail.com YouTube | Overthink podcast
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  • Hello and welcome to Overthink,

  • the podcast where your two favorite philosophy professors take you along the road less traveled.

  • I am David Peña-Guzman and I'm Ellie Anderson.

  • There's a common misconception that philosophers don't travel.

  • Many think that we're sort of up in our ivory tower,

  • armchair thinking about abstract ideas with no real connection to the real world.

  • And in one of the books that I really enjoyed reading in preparation for this episode,

  • it's called Philosophers Abroad, The Meaning of Travel by Emily Thomas.

  • Thomas points out that this misconception is likely due to two figures, Kant,

  • who famously barely ever traveled outside of Königsberg where he lived in spite of writing an entire text on anthropology in which he speculated about different races and second Socrates who never actually set foot outside of the city walls of Athens.

  • Yeah, I mean, fair point.

  • If you're trying to paint a picture of the traditional philosopher by the standards of Socrates and the magician from Königsberg,

  • you're going to get a very reclusive image of who we are and what we do.

  • Although I think this also raises the question of what we mean by travel,

  • because although neither Socrates nor Kant ever really Left their hometown.

  • I mean they kind of traveled within their hometown

  • because both of them love to go on walks I mean Socrates is a peripatetic philosopher engaging people in the Agora and Kant was famous

  • for going on these walks that were super regular to the point that some of his neighbors and other locals would tell what time of the day was by seeing the philosopher walking around so it's a kind of like local travel,

  • I would say Okay, David, so you're absolutely right that what we mean by travel is an open question,

  • and that's something we'll be really getting into in the episode.