Pete Buttigieg contends President Trump is destroying American institutions.
Which is wrong.
It is also wrong to imagine that we should have just kept everything going along the way it was.
How would he have Democrats change their approach?
I'm Steve Inskeep and this is a special edition of Up First from NPR News.
We had an extended talk with the former Transportation Secretary and presidential candidate.
His party looks for a reset and presses President Trump on Jeffrey Epstein.
You shouldn't have to be a Republican or Democrat to care about making sure there's transparency on something as horrific as the abuses that happened.
Also, he's one of several possible presidential contenders with a beard.
If you were to run, would you shave it?
That's a double hypothetical.
Stay with us.
We'll have a talk with the man once known as Mayor Pete.
Democrats are debating their future and here is one of the voices in that debate.
My name is Pete Buttigieg.
They call me Mayor Pete.
That's the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana,
when he declared his run for president a couple of campaigns ago.
He stepped aside in favor of Joe Biden, became Biden's transportation secretary,
and was notable as one of the Democrats who took up the challenge of talking on Fox News.