Hello, I'm Dashyani Navanayagam and welcome to the conversation from the BBC World Service.
This is the programme that puts women in the spotlight showcasing the amazing stories and experiences of women around the world.
Today, my guests are two women fascinated by the lives of one particular apex predator, the wolf.
Both my guests have spent their careers observing the pack dynamics of wolves in their country.
Elisa Romasa started working as a park ranger outside Turin in Italy in 1997,
when wolves were seen for the first time in over half a century.
Since then, she's watched the population re-establish itself.
And Erin Stahler is part of the Yellowstone Wolf Project in the United States,
which reintroduced the species 30 years ago.
Now, There are 10 packs.
Elisa and Erin, welcome to the conversation.
Hello.
Very nice to meet you.
Hello.
I wanted to start by asking both of you, what's so fascinating about wolves to you?
Elisa, why don't we start with you?
I think they are like us.
What do you mean by that?
I mean that they make a pair, a family with puppies to grow up well.
are so intelligent and they try to look ahead for hunting