Paul Kupiec on Problems with the Fed’s Balance Sheet and Calls to End Interest on Reserves

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Macro Musings with David Beckworth

2025-07-28

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Paul Kupiec is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. In Paul’s first appearance on the show, he discusses life at a think tank, the insolvency of the Fed, theories on how to fix the Fed’s balance sheet, Ted Cruz’s call to end interest on reserves, and much more.  Check out the transcript for this week’s episode, now with links. Recorded on June 24th, 2025 Subscribe to David's Substack: Macroeconomic Policy Nexus Follow David Beckworth on X: @DavidBeckworth Follow the show on X: @Macro_Musings Check out our Macro Musings merch! Subscribe to David's new BTS YouTube Channel  Timestamps 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:14 - Paul’s Career 00:08:12 - Think Tanks 00:10:42 - Current State of the Fed’s Balance Sheet 00:20:22 - The Federal Reserve and Gold 00:23:04 - The Fed’s Unique Accounting 00:39:28 - Ending Interest on Reserve Payments to Banks 00:50:08 - Outro
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  • Welcome to macro museums where each week we pull back the curtain and take a closer look at the most important macro economic issues of the past,

  • present and future.

  • I am your host David Beckworth,

  • a senior research fellow with the Mercatus Center at George Mason University.

  • I'm glad you decided to join us.

  • Our guest today is Paul Kupiec.

  • Paul is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, or AEI,

  • and formerly worked at the FDIC, the IMF, the Fed, and Wall Street.

  • Paul joins us today to discuss issues surrounding the Fed's balance sheet and recent calls by members of Congress to end interest on reserves.

  • Paul, welcome to the show.

  • Thank you, David.

  • Thanks for inviting me.

  • It's great to have you on.

  • Now, we first met at an event that you hosted at the AEI.

  • You graciously invited me to participate on a panel.

  • I think George Seligman had launched his book.

  • on the Fed's new floor system.

  • It was myself, George Seligin, and then Bill Nelson, and yourself had a great conversation.

  • Got to know you, got to know Bill Nelson.

  • Lots of fun conversations since that time with Bill and George on operating systems,