32. Which Gets You Further: Talent or Effort?

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  Hey, no judgment.

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  I guess a little bit of judgment.

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  I'd say more than a little bit of judgment.

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  I'm Angela Duckworth.

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  I'm Stephen Dubner.

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  And you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

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  Today on the show, when it comes to success, is talent or effort more important?

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  It's so interesting.

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  And I sometimes say out loud, I will never get bored of this.

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  Also, what's the issue with using acronyms like POTUS or SCOTUS?

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  Gosh, I didn't really like the sound of that when you just said that.

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  I was like, ooh.

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  It's a little too much like scrotum.

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  Angela, on this thing called the internet that I was wandering around the other day,

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  I read a five-year-old paper of yours called The Mechanics of Human Achievement.

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  I like that paper.

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  I did too.

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  It was really interesting, and I thought it would be fun to talk about,

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  so I guess my question today would be when it comes to achievement,

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  what's the best way or a fruitful way to think about breaking down talent versus effort?

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