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An explosive whistleblower report claims that the Justice Department is asking government lawyers to lie to the courts,
and that that has forced career officials to choose between upholding the Constitution or pledging loyalty to the president.
Today, I speak to that whistleblower.
It's Wednesday, July 23rd.
Erez Reuveni, welcome to The Daily.
Nice to meet you.
I spoke to Erez Reuveni, the whistleblower, on Monday.
I'm very curious how you feel being with us today.
Well, I mean, I didn't have this on my life bingo card,
but I'm happy to be here and happy to tell my story and happy that you all want to hear it.
In 2010, Rovani joined the Justice Department's Office of Immigration Litigation,
where he worked until he was fired in April of this year.