Reneé Rapp on Blurring the Line Between Bestie and Lover

朋友和恋人的模糊界限

Modern Love

2025-07-23

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The pop singer and actress Reneé Rapp has a deep love for her friends. She maintains a nonstop group chat with more than 15 close friends every day. Their lives are so intertwined that the line between platonic and romantic can sometimes get blurry, particularly since many of them have dated each other. Rapp, best known for her role in the Broadway musical and new film adaptation “Mean Girls,” has an upcoming album, “Bite Me,” which delves into the intimacy and messiness of friendships, not just romantic relationships. Mirroring her album’s themes, Rapp walks Anna Martin through various vulnerable moments she has recently shared with friends, including one with her best friend and former “The Sex Lives of College Girls” co-star Alyah Chanelle Scott. It’s no surprise that Rapp chose to read the Modern Love essay “This is What Happens When Friends Fall in Love” by Sammy Sass. The piece resonates with her own experiences of sustaining love within queer friendships. While Rapp says she doesn’t have a blueprint, she has learned to navigate misunderstandings and express genuine love to those closest to her. Here’s how to submit a Modern Love essay to The New York Times. Here’s how to submit a Tiny Love Story. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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  • From "The New York Times," I'm Anna Martin.

  • This is "Modern Love."

  • Every week, we bring you stories about love, lust, heartbreak,

  • all the messiness of human relationships.

  • Today on the show, actor and singer Reneé Rapp.

  • Reneé is most known for her role in the recent Tina Fey-produced musical "Mean Girls."

  • On Broadway and in the movie version, Reneé played Regina George,

  • queen of the mean girls at school known as the Plastics.

  • Oh my God, you are literally being so annoying.

  • You know the Plastics.

  • They're rude.

  • They're hot.

  • They're well-dressed.

  • And above all else, they are so much cooler than you.

  • So we never really do this, but you're invited to eat lunch with us for the rest of the week.

  • Oh, um, that's OK.

  • On Wednesdays, we wear pink.

  • In real life, though, Reneé is open.

  • She's warm.

  • She's charmingly chaotic.