Lunch with the man who coined TACO

与创造TACO这一词汇的人共进午餐

The Indicator from Planet Money

2025-07-22

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Despite presidential saber rattling and huge tariff threats, the U.S. stock market keeps reaching record highs. Why? Today we sit down with the man who coined the acronym TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) and chew through several hypotheses. (Over tacos, of course.) Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • NPR. On a summer's day I met Robert Armstrong at a Mexican restaurant in Brooklyn.

  • Robert Armstrong writes for the Financial Times.

  • He hosts the Unhedged podcast and we were there for one reason.

  • Robert is famous for this acronym he coined, TACO.

  • Trump Always Chickens Out.

  • Al pastor, grilled shrimp and fish.

  • I got mushrooms, spinach and veggies.

  • So you might remember TACO is basically this idea that Donald Trump threatens super high tariffs and also things like firing the chair of the Federal Reserve.

  • But then he backs down on the more extreme policies when the markets freak out.

  • And this is one explanation for why the stock market has been reaching new heights,

  • despite a chorus of economists and many business leaders saying that President Trump's tariffs will hurt growth.

  • This is The Indicator from Planet Money.

  • I'm Darien Woods.

  • Today on the show, Why is the stock market doing so well?

  • Aside from some recent bumps in the road,

  • Wall Street seems to be shrugging off chaotic economic policymaking.

  • We chew the whole enchilada after the break.

  • All right, here are our tacos.

  • Thanks very much.

  • These look beautiful.