How to rethink your emotional attachment to clothes (w/ Diarra Bousso)

如何重新审视你对衣物的情感依恋(与迪亚拉·布索访谈)

How to Be a Better Human

2025-07-21

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We often think donating clothes is a sustainable act, but when tons of garments are shipped to places like West Africa, it creates environmental waste and disrupts local artisans’ livelihoods. Diarra Bousso, a mathematician and sustainable fashion designer, joins Chris to unpack the hidden cost of global textiles waste and how she founded her lifestyle brand Diarrablu. She shares how she designs with emotional sustainability in mind – creating clothes that adjust to our changing body while showcasing Sengalese’s bold colors and prints. They also discuss how mathematical concepts influence her work, how technology and AI might help designers reduce waste, and why it’s important to make clothes that make you feel good. Follow Host: Chris Duffy (Instagram: @chrisiduffy | chrisduffycomedy.com) Guest: Diarra Bousso (Instagram: @thediarrablu | LinkedIn: @diarrabousso | Website: diarrabousso.com/)  Links diarrablu.com Subscribe to TED  Instagram: @ted YouTube: @TED TikTok: @tedtoks LinkedIn: @ted-conferences Website: ted.com Podcasts: ted.com/podcasts For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Want to help shape TED's shows going forward? Fill out our survey! For a chance to give your own TED Talk, fill out the Idea Search Application: ted.com/ideasearch. Interested in learning more about upcoming TED events? Follow these links: TEDNext: ted.com/futureyou Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • This is how to be a better human.

  • I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

  • Today, we're going to be talking about fashion.

  • We're going to be talking about math.

  • We're going to be talking about West Africa and Norway and artificial intelligence.

  • And as unlikely as it sounds,

  • we're going to cover all of those topics in the same conversation with one person.

  • And that is because our guest today is the multifaceted, multi-talented Diarra Bussow.

  • Diarra is the founder of the fashion technology company Diarra Blue,

  • but as she explains in her TED Talk, this was not a career that she expected.

  • I actually didn't intend to work in fashion.

  • I started my career on Wall Street in my early 20s, was obsessed with being rich,

  • and back then I probably preferred fashion brands that supported my wasteful shopping habits.