Can Europe afford to rearm itself? With Jeromin Zettelmeyer

欧洲能否承担起重新武装自己?——与杰罗姆·泽特尔迈耶尔对话

The Economics Show

2025-07-21

27 分钟
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European countries have committed to higher defence spending to face down Russian aggression. But preparing for war isn’t cheap – and in many countries, budgets are already stretched. How will European members of Nato hit their defence targets, a hefty 5% of GDP? Will EU states look beyond their own national champions, and commit to greater co-operation on defence funding and purchases? And what kind of new institutions would be necessary to make that happen? To find out, Sam Fleming speaks to Jeromin Zettelmeyer. He is the director of the Brussels-based think tank, Bruegel, and has previously held senior roles at the IMF, the Peterson Institute, and in the German Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy.  Clips: BBC, Bloomberg Television, European Commission, French Armed Forces Sam Fleming is the FT’s economics editor. You can find his articles here: https://www.ft.com/sam-fleming Subscribe to The Economics Show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen.  Presented by Sam Fleming. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Flo Phillips is the executive producer. Manuela Saragosa is the FT’s acting co-head of audio. Original music from Breen Turner, and sound design by Breen Turner & Sam Giovinco. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • I have been very, very direct

  • in saying that Nato members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their financial obligations.

  • So that’s the reason why we are spending a lot of money, more than ever before, after the cold war.

  • With this plan, allies have agreed to invest 5 per cent of GDP in defence.

  • This is a significant commitment in response to significant threats to our security.

  • This is a moment for Europe and we are ready to step up.

  • Europe has a weapons problem.

  • Facing Russian aggression and with support from the US wavering, the continent is rushing to re-arm.

  • But buying weapons and readying for war isn’t cheap.

  • And in many countries, budgets are already stretched.

  • Can Europe afford to re-arm itself?

  • And how will doing so affect European economies?

  • This is The Economics Show.

  • I’m Sam Fleming, the FT’s economics editor.

  • I’m joined today by Jeromin Zettelmeyer, director of the Brussels-based think-tank Bruegel.

  • He’s previously served as deputy director of the strategy and policy review at the IMF,

  • a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute in Washington, DC,

  • and director-general for economic policy at Germany’s Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy.

  • Jeromin, welcome to the show.

  • Thanks for having me, Sam.