The Talk

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2025-07-20

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It's been five years since George Floyd was murdered, yet for many Black families, the fear remains unchanged. In this episode of The Sunday Story, Ayesha Rascoe sits down with Ryan Ross and his teenage son Gavin to discuss "The Talk" — the painful but necessary conversation Black parents have to prepare their children for encounters with police. From childhood memories of Tamir Rice to fatherly rules for surviving traffic stops, we take a look at how Black parents explain to their sons how to navigate interactions with law enforcement. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is The Sunday Story,

  • where we go beyond the news to bring you one big story.

  • This year marks five years

  • since George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin,

  • an event that shook the country and sparked a wave of protests against police brutality in Black communities.

  • To reflect on what's changed and what hasn't, I sat down with Ryan Ross and his son, Gavin.

  • Ryan is the CEO of the Urban Leadership Foundation of Colorado,

  • which works to empower Black leaders through training in everything from public speaking and entrepreneurship to conflict resolution and negotiation.

  • At the time of our conversation, Gavin was a high school sophomore.

  • Like so many Black families, they've had The Talk.

  • What's The Talk?

  • The Talk is a...

  • painful conversation Black parents have to have with their children about the burdens of navigating encounters with law enforcement as a Black person in America.

  • It aims to prepare Black children, especially Black boys,

  • for a world where authority figures may perceive them as a threat because of their race.

  • You know, we have had this conversation many times,

  • and every time I hear him express his feelings, I am enraged.

  • because this is what I was trying to protect him from.

  • That's coming up after the break.

  • Stay with us.