We are living in interesting times, a turning point in history.
Are we entering a dark authoritarian era,
or are we on the brink of a technological golden age or the apocalypse?
No one really knows, but I'm trying to find out.
From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthit, and on my show, Interesting Times,
I'm exploring this strange new world order with the thinkers and leaders giving its shape.
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From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro.
This is The Daily.
During an Oval Office meeting with congressional Republicans a few days ago,
it didn't take President Trump long to turn to his favorite subject,
his hatred for the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jay Powell.
In fact, during the meeting,
Trump proudly showed off the draft of a letter that would fire Powell for good.
It's the latest chapter in a dysfunctional relationship that has major implications not just for the American economy,
but for the global economy.
Today,
I speak with my colleague Colby Smith about what's really at the heart of Washington's ugliest drama,
Trump versus Powell.
It's Thursday, July 17th.