The Search for a Jewish Homeland in Texas, with Rachel Cockerell and James McAuley

在德克萨斯州寻找犹太人的家园,与Rachel Cockerell和James McAuley共同探索

Intelligence Squared

2025-07-16

32 分钟
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On June 7th 1907, a ship packed with Russian Jews sets sail not to Jerusalem or New York, as many on board have dreamt, but to Texas. The man who persuades the passengers to go is David Jochelmann, Rachel Cockerell's great-grandfather. It marks the beginning of the Galveston Movement, a forgotten moment in history when 10,000 Jews fled to Texas in the lead-up to WWI. In today's episode historian and author Rachel Cockerell tells this fascinating story in conversation with James McAuley, journalist and Global Opinions contributing columnist at the Washington Post. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm Head of Programming, Conor Boyle.

  • In this episode, we're joined by Rachel Cockrell, author of Melting Point,

  • to discuss one of the most remarkable and largely forgotten episodes in Jewish history,

  • the Galveston movement.

  • Drawing entirely from original source material,

  • Melting Point brings an overlooked chapter of Jewish history to life with letters,

  • diaries and newspaper accounts that illuminate the tension between preserving a cultural identity and assimilation.

  • Rachel is joined by journalist James K. McCauley to discuss these themes as well as migration,

  • memory and the search for a homeland.

  • Let's join James now with more.

  • Hello and welcome to Intelligence Squared with me, James McCauley.

  • Our guest today is Rachel Cockrell, a writer and historian whose first book is Melting Point.

  • Family, Memory, and the Search for a Promised Land,

  • which has been long-listed for the Bailey Gifford Nonfiction Prize and widely acclaimed both in Britain and the United States.

  • Rachel, welcome to the show.

  • The story of Zionism is one of the great dramas in modern history,

  • a powerful and contentious idea at the heart of geopolitics today.

  • And it's a story that, for the most part, everybody thinks they know, at least a little bit.

  • For many people,