Trump showers ICE: massive immigration budgets and mass deportation

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Checks and Balance from The Economist

2025-07-12

50 分钟
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The Trump Administration's goal of mass deportation now seems more possible, after Congress passed the Big Beautiful Bill. It includes $75 billion for ICE. How fundamentally will it change immigration policy in America? John Prideaux hosts with Charlotte Howard and James Bennet. Runtime: 50.32 Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts  Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+  
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  • The Economist.

  • Even before there was a United States,

  • there were laws regulating who got to live there.

  • In 1683, New York, then under British control,

  • permitted the deportation of transients to the country from whence they came.

  • President Trump has promised to deport millions of illegal migrants from the United States,

  • and his domestic policy bill, which now has his big, beautiful signature,

  • doles out the money that may make that possible.

  • I'm John Prudhoe, and this is Checks and Balance from The Economist.

  • Each week, we take one big theme shaping American politics and explore it in depth.

  • Today, how will Donald Trump's second term change immigration in the United States?

  • The big, beautiful bill showers money on the Department of Homeland Security for new immigration agents.

  • Will it be enough to quiet his critics on the right,

  • who say deportations aren't happening quickly enough?

  • Already in his term, border crossings have slowed to a trickle.

  • How will businesses, farms, and the country manage with fewer workers?

  • Joining me this week to talk about immigration policy and immigration enforcement in America are Charlotte Howard,

  • who's in New York, and joining the podcast, James Bennett, who's in Lyme, Connecticut.

  • James, what's going on in Lyme?

  • It's quiet and peaceful here in Lyme, John,