Doomed experiment: Trump's assault on science

注定失败的实验:特朗普对科学的攻击

Babbage from The Economist

2025-05-29

42 分钟

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Across America scientists are reeling as they are hit with wave after wave of grant terminations and funding freezes. Federal science agencies have fired thousands of staff. And President Trump has declared war on the country's leading universities. The administration says it seeks to usher in a “Golden Age” of science and innovation. Our reporting suggests that it will do the opposite. Host: Alok Jha, The Economist's science and technology editor, with science correspondent Emilie Steinmark. Contributors: Don Ingber of Harvard University; Amy Nunn of Brown University; Hannah Cooper of Emory University; Brigitte Seim of the University of Minnesota; Jane Carlton of Johns Hopkins University. Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+.
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  • Across America, scientists have been living under a cloud of uneasy anticipation.

  • Emily Steinmark is The Economist's science correspondent.

  • Mere months into Donald Trump's second presidency and the scientific world has been thrown into chaos.

  • Federal science agencies have laid off employees en masse.

  • The Trump administration has sought to hold the nation's premier universities hostage.

  • Online, rumours are swirling that there is a list of words related to diversity,

  • equity and inclusion, and if any ground includes them, it will be denied or cancelled.

  • In the midst of it all lies one especially salient fear, the arrival of the letter.

  • On March 20th, this letter landed in the inbox of Amy Nunn,

  • a professor at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island.

  • I was on my phone, actually.

  • I just was cruising through my emails and I got the termination award that was sent to us by the Research Administration Office.

  • The following day, it came for Hannah Cooper, a professor at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.

  • Effective with the date of this letter.

  • Funding for project number 5U54HD113292 is hereby terminated.

  • Nearly a month later in Minneapolis, Brigitte Assime,

  • a professor at the University of Minnesota, also received the letter.

  • It was Friday, and I had already signed off for the day.

  • And I was with my children, who I had picked up from school.

  • And I got a Slack message saying that the NSF was terminated.