The Specialist | The Rediscovery of Rubens’ The Massacre of the Innocents, with George Gordon

《专家》| 乔治·戈登与鲁本斯的《无辜者的屠杀》的再发现

Intelligence Squared

2025-07-05

14 分钟
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This is an episode of The Specialist, produced by Intelligence Squared in partnership with Sotheby's. In The Specialist, explore the significance and journey of an extraordinary work through the eyes of those that know it best. Rubens’ early masterpiece The Massacre of the Innocents was hidden away for nearly 250 years. George Gordon, Deputy Chairman, Sotheby’s Europe and Co-Chairman of Old Master Paintings & Drawings Worldwide, spearheaded its discovery, attribution and triumphant sale. More than 20 years on, it retains the record for the highest price paid anywhere for a rediscovered painting. ⁠⁠Further details about the episode subject⁠⁠ The Specialist is brought to you by Sotheby's Financial Services. SFS offers asset-based loans to unlock the value of your fine art, automobiles and other luxury collectibles. Visit ⁠⁠sothebys.com/sfs⁠⁠ to find out more.To step further into the World of Sotheby’s, visit any one of our galleries, which are open to the public. Explore more at ⁠⁠sothebys.com⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm Head of Programming, Conor Boyle.

  • Today, something a little different.

  • We're excited to share with you a hand-picked episode of a brand new series,

  • The Specialist, produced by Intelligence Squared in partnership with Sotheby's.

  • We've all heard the stories of the record-breaking works,

  • headline-grabbing auctions and moments that shocked the art world and beyond.

  • But have you ever wondered what's happening behind the scenes?

  • What goes into valuing a masterpiece?

  • Or who the people are really behind the gavel?

  • The Specialist brings you art's most extraordinary stories,

  • told by the experts who witness them, in short episodes perfect for a weekend listen.

  • Now, over to The Specialist.

  • We are very fortunate

  • because we often get to see paintings that other people can't see in private collections,

  • often literally in attics.

  • And that gives us the chance to make discoveries and understand the paintings that we come across.

  • Recognising them isn't enough.

  • You've got to understand them and understand why they matter and then explain to people why they matter and why they're significant.

  • Sotheby's is the temporary custodian of some of the world's most rare,