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It's a March morning in Islamabad,
and my colleague Hamza Jalani is out at a branch of Pakistan's most successful bank, Mizan Bank.
It's almost the end of Ramadan.
And the big celebration of Eid is just days away.
Once Hamza makes his way inside the bank, he finds lots of people taking out cash to give as gifts.
It's an age-old tradition for the holiday.
He stops and he talks to one guy who is sitting with a bank teller to do exactly that.
essentially owns a venue that's very popular for weddings, one of the big spend items in Pakistan.
What's unique about the bank that Ali is using is that it's an Islamic one.
And that means that you can't charge interest because that's strictly forbidden in Islam.
Hamza is here at Mizan to talk to people about why they would prefer this type of banking.
He's saying that it doesn't bother him that he gets less of a return at Mizan, an Islamic bank,
than he might get at a conventional bank