#2345 - Roman Yampolskiy

#2345 - 罗曼·亚姆波尔斯基

The Joe Rogan Experience

2025-07-04

2 小时 21 分钟
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Dr. Roman Yampolskiy is a computer scientist, AI safety researcher, and professor at the University of Louisville. He’s the author of several books, including "Considerations on the AI Endgame," co-authored with Soenke Ziesche, and "AI: Unexplained, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable."http://cecs.louisville.edu/ry/ Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @TrueClassic at https://trueclassic.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Well, thank you for doing this, I really appreciate it.

  • My pleasure, thank you for inviting me.

  • This subject of the dangers of AI,

  • it's very interesting

  • because I get two very different responses from people dependent upon how invested they are.

  • in AI financially.

  • The people that have AI companies or are part of some sort of AI group all are like,

  • it's going to be a net positive for humanity.

  • I think overall we're going to have much better lives.

  • It's going to be easier.

  • Things will be cheaper.

  • It'll be easier to get along.

  • And then I hear people like you and I'm like, why do I believe him?

  • It's actually not true.

  • All of them are on record as saying, this is going to kill us.

  • Whatever it's Sam Altman or anyone else, they all at some point were leaders in AI safety work.

  • They published an AI safety and their PDOM levels are insanely high.

  • Not like mine, but still 20, 30% chance that humanity dies is a little too much.

  • Yeah, that's pretty high.

  • But yours is like...