One Of The Cheapest Ways To Save A Life Is Going Away

拯救生命的最经济方式或许正在消失。

The NPR Politics Podcast

2025-07-04

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From our friends at The Indicator from Planet Money: What's the price to save a human life? We examine the monumental legacy of the U.S. President's Emergency Plan For AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) with journalist Jon Cohen, who traveled to Eswatini and Lesotho to learn how cuts under the Trump administration are hitting people at the clinic door. Listen to every episode of the NPR Politics Podcast sponsor-free, unlock access to bonus episodes with more from the NPR Politics team, and support public media when you sign up for The NPR Politics Podcast+ at plus.npr.org/politics. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast.

  • I'm Deepa Shivaram.

  • I cover the White House.

  • And today on the show,

  • we want to highlight some reporting from our friends at The Indicator from Planet Money.

  • We've talked a lot on this podcast about Doge,

  • the entity that has reshaped the federal government.

  • One of its targets was USAID, an agency that gave foreign aid and assistance.

  • PEPFAR is one of USAID's programs,

  • and cuts to the program stand to have a massive impact on global health.

  • Darian Woods picks it up after this break.

  • On NPR's ThruLine.

  • School teachers are going to be the ones that rebuild our society in a way that is more cohesive.

  • Basically, where soldiers set down their arms,