Rebroadcast: “There is a government cover-up around UFOs. It’s just not the one that you think.”

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  Hey there, it's Shamita here.

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  We have a rerun for you this week, and it's relevant because of some recent news.

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  A few weeks ago, an investigation from the Wall Street Journal revealed that for decades,

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  officials inside the Pentagon intentionally spread disinformation about UFO sightings and alien technology,

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  in some cases to protect secret weapons programs.

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  So we are re-airing my conversation from last year with journalist Garrett Graff.

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  He unpacks our collective fascination with UFOs,

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  some of the possible explanations behind UFO sightings that go beyond just extraterrestrials,

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  and how the U.S. government's secrecy around all of this has helped fuel alien myths.

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  Besides, what better time to talk about aliens than Independence Day, right?

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  I hope you enjoy it.

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  This is In Conversation from Apple News.

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  I'm Shamita Basu.

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  Today, what our fascination with UFOs says about us Earthlings.

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  A couple years ago, the Pentagon released some pretty startling footage.

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  It was captured by a Navy jet pilot in 2015.

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  A little black dot moving shockingly fast over the ocean.

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  So fast that even the pilots weren't quite sure what they were looking at.

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  The Pentagon released the videos to, quote,

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  clear up any misconceptions about whether the footage was real.

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