The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: The future of the postwar system

狼-克鲁格曼交锋:战后体系的前景

The Economics Show

2025-07-02

44 分钟
PDF

单集简介 ...

In the fifth of this six-part series of The Economics Show, Martin Wolf, the FT’s chief economics commentator, and Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman discuss the way American politics is crashing against both the guardrails of a stable, democratic system and the rules and norms of the postwar economic order and how this could jeopardise the importance of the US on the world stage. Paul Krugman’s Cultural Coda:  Stephen Sondheim: "We had a good thing going" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTbrbiM-slg&list=RDNTbrbiM-slg&start_radio=1 Martin Wolf’s Cultural Coda: Jonas Kaufmann: Freiheit from Beethoven’s Fidelio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvfhmGsFMEo Subscribe and listen to this series on The Economics Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Episodes are also available on the FT’s YouTube channel. If you’d like to get in touch and ask Martin and Paul a question, please email economics.show@ft.com  Read Martin’s FT column here Subscribe to Paul’s substack here The Wolf-Krugman Exchange is produced by Sandra Kanthal. The broadcast engineer was Rod Fitzgerald. The sound engineer is Breen Turner. Manuela Saragosa is the FT’s acting co-head of audio. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
更多

单集文稿 ...

  • Should we be putting this on recording or?

  • Let's start.

  • I need to close the door so I can get some quiet here.

  • Problem with modern family life.

  • My wife's on another Zoom call in another room and it turned out that I could hear it.

  • This is the fifth in our series, the Wolf-Krugman Exchange.

  • I'm Martin Wolff, Chief Economics Commentator of the Financial Times.

  • And I'm Paul Krugman.

  • Professor at City University of New York and author of an independent substack newsletter and today's episode is being recorded on Monday,

  • June 30th At 9 in the morning in Massachusetts where I am now and 2 p.m.

  • At London.

  • Tell us where you've been recently pull Yeah Occasionally I do stupid things so I was in Sao Paulo last week and I spent zero nights there I took the overnight flight down,

  • spoke at a big financial conference, and then took the overnight flight back.

  • So I spent two successive nights sleeping on airplanes, which is really stupid,

  • although somehow or other, I managed not to get sick.

  • Well, that makes me feel much better about my trip.

  • Last Monday night, I went to Delhi,

  • but I actually spent four days there, and I was attending a conference.

  • on the economic policy of the National Council

  • for Applied Economic Research and I met a number of policy makers and journalists and got a really sort of interesting little new take and met some friends who are very involved,