The Genius Myth, with Helen Lewis and Armando Iannucci (Part Two)

天才神话,主讲人海伦·刘易斯与阿曼多·伊亚努奇(第二部分)

Intelligence Squared

2025-07-02

39 分钟
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The tortured poet. The rebellious scientist. The monstrous artist. The tech disruptor. You can tell what a society values by who it labels as a genius. You can also tell who it excludes, who it enables, and what it is prepared to tolerate. Taking us from the Renaissance Florence of Leonardo da Vinci to the Florida rocket launches of Elon Musk’s SpaceX, Helen Lewis joined us to unravel a word that we all use — without really questioning what it means. In conversation with acclaimed satirist and screenwriter Armando Iannucci she drew from her new book 'The Genius Myth' to uncover the secret of the Beatles’ success, discuss how biographers should solve the ‘Austen Problem’ and reveal why Stephen Hawking thought IQ tests were for losers. Lewis and Iannucci asked if the modern idea of genius — a class of special people — is distorting our view of the world. --- If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.

  • Today's episode is part two of our recent live event with Helen Lewis and Armando Anucci,

  • who were in discussion live at Conway Hall in London to ask

  • if the modern idea of genius is distorting our view of the world.

  • Let's join Helen and Armando in conversation now.

  • I think this is one of the most powerful bits in the book really

  • because What being called a genius does to someone,

  • usually mostly a male, is allow them to get away with anything else,

  • to be badly misbehaved or to be appalling with their family.

  • I mean, I think Tolstoy is a really good example of this.

  • He was...

  • He was an aristocrat anyway, so he had lots of money.

  • And then he became so famous, he was sort of father of the nation.

  • But he put the whole family through his every little whim.

  • At one point he was like, we're all vegetarian now.

  • And they had to be vegetarian.

  • At one point he went, we're all going to Mongolia,

  • because I want to reconnect with nature in a yurt.

  • I mean, he was very much...