I'm David Marchese. And I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.
And we're the hosts of The Interview from The New York Times.
David and I have spent our careers interviewing some of the most interesting and influential people in the world.
Which means we know when to ask tough questions and when to just sit back and listen.
And now we've teamed up to have these conversations every week.
We'll try to reveal something about the people shaping our world.
And we'll get some great stories from them too.
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From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro.
This is The Daily.
From the outside,
the political movement created by Donald Trump has never seemed more empowered or invulnerable than it does right now.
Except to the man who helped get Trump elected in the first place, Steve Bannon.
who sees threats to the movement and betrayals of it at almost every turn,
whether it's bombing Iran or allowing tech billionaires to advise the president.
Today,
my colleague Jeremy Peters talks to Bannon about the nature of those threats and why,
in Bannon's mind, the future of the MAGA movement depends on defeating them.
Tuesday, July 1st.