The Genius Myth, with Helen Lewis and Armando Iannucci (Part One)

天才神话,由海伦·刘易斯和亚尔莫多·伊安努奇主讲(第一部分)

Intelligence Squared

2025-06-30

40 分钟
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The tortured poet. The rebellious scientist. The monstrous artist. The tech disruptor. You can tell what a society values by who it labels as a genius. You can also tell who it excludes, who it enables, and what it is prepared to tolerate. Taking us from the Renaissance Florence of Leonardo da Vinci to the Florida rocket launches of Elon Musk’s SpaceX, Helen Lewis joined us to unravel a word that we all use — without really questioning what it means. In conversation with acclaimed satirist and screenwriter Armando Iannucci she drew from her new book 'The Genius Myth' to uncover the secret of the Beatles’ success, discuss how biographers should solve the ‘Austen Problem’ and reveal why Stephen Hawking thought IQ tests were for losers. Lewis and Iannucci asked if the modern idea of genius — a class of special people — is distorting our view of the world. --- This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorenti, and I'm joined today by Connor Boyle, head of programming.

  • Connor, what can we expect on today's episode?

  • Well, Mia, today we have two returning guests who,

  • if you've been a long-time listener of Intelligence Squared,

  • you'll have heard many times Helen Lewis,

  • who hosted lots of episodes on Intelligence Squared before.

  • We're recording this now in Soho Sonic Studios in London,

  • and Helen used to host a lot of episodes here in studio.

  • And she's written some brilliant books, obviously Difficult Women,

  • which was a history of feminism in 12 fights, which was a brilliant bestseller.

  • And now she's got her latest book, which is The Genius Myth,

  • which is asking whether the whole concept of genius is warping our perception of society.

  • So, you know, right now there's a bit of a cult following,

  • you might say, around people like Elon Musk.

  • People say he's a genius.

  • But if we go back to Albert Einstein, Leonardo da Vinci, The Beatles,

  • were these people geniuses or is there more to the story that we're leaving out?

  • So really interesting conversation and she's with Armando Iannucci who,

  • obviously writer of The Thick of It,