Hello, and welcome to Forever 35,
a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafrir.
And I'm Elise Hugh, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Welcome to the show.
This is a Monday episode.
Usually the line on Wednesdays is, and this is a mini episode,
but this is not a mini episode.
This is a Monday episode.
This is not a mini episode.
And on Monday episodes,
we have amazing guests on and we do kind of longer form interviews.
And today we have on Maris Kreisman,
who is an old friend of Dory's who we will formally introduce later.
But we catch up first.
And so, yeah.
Did Maris tell you that we went to college together?
She sure did.
Yeah, sure did.
We go like way, way, way back.