Rick Steves Refuses to Get Cynical About the World [Re-Run]

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  The New York Times app has all this stuff that you may not have seen.

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  The way the tabs are at the top with all of the different sections.

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  I could immediately navigate to something that matches what I'm feeling.

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  I go to games always.

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  Doing the mini, doing the wordle.

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  I loved how much content it exposed me to.

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  Things that I never would have thought to turn to a news app for.

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  This app is essential.

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  The New York Times app.

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  All of the Times.

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  All in one place.

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  Download it now at nytimes.com slash app.

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  Hey, it's Lulu.

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  We're off this week,

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  but I'm excited to share a conversation that I had last year with travel guru Rick Steves.

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  We talked about his early days spreading the gospel of transformative travel,

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  the difference between being a tourist and being a traveler,

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  and why he thinks going out into the world is more important than ever right now.

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  Also, an update to Rick's story.

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  After we spoke, he announced that he is, in his words, now cancer-free.

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