CEO Diaries: Bozoma Saint John on Growing Through Grief & Leading with Purpose

CEO日记:博兹玛·圣约翰讲述如何在悲伤中成长,并怀着目标领导前行

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

2025-06-25

17 分钟
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Bozoma Saint John’s story isn’t just about leading the world’s biggest brands - it’s about surviving unimaginable loss, breaking every “career rule,” and redefining what success really means. In today's episode of CEO Diaries, the former Netflix and Apple CMO reveals why she quit chasing work-life balance, why being selfish saved her, and how personal tragedy shaped her path to the top. Visit - ⁠⁠⁠www.linkedin.com/DOAC⁠⁠ Listen to the full episode here - Spotify - ⁠https://g2ul0.app.link/yzrBsXpFsUb Apple - ⁠https://g2ul0.app.link/czJGDAsFsUb Watch The Diary of a CEO Episodes On YouTube - ⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • In today's Moments episode, we're featuring one of the most iconic brand builders of all time,

  • the former CMO of Netflix and Chief Brand Officer of Uber, Bosma St. John.

  • Bosma's perspective on marketing is fresh because it's not just about algorithms or trends,

  • it's about something far more powerful.

  • It's about curiosity.

  • Curiosity about people, why they choose what they choose,

  • what moves them, what scares them, and what makes them say yes.

  • In B2B marketing, just like in life, we're not talking to businesses, we're talking to people.

  • So if you want to understand the real edge behind influential marketing,

  • this is the moment to listen in.

  • Your first sort of real significant career move seemed to be this encounter with Spike Lee's agency.

  • So for people that don't know, who is Spike Lee and how did that happen?

  • Spike Lee is blackity, blackity, black, first of all.

  • All the blackness.

  • No, but he is a film director, really, at his core, filmmaker,

  • let's call it that, because he certainly produces and does other things and writes.

  • But he has an advertising agency in New York.

  • When I was there, it was on Madison Avenue.

  • So, Madison Avenue is like the place for advertising in the world, right?

  • It's the place where the show Mad Men was made from.