2025-06-16
10 分钟Welcome to the World in 10.
In an increasingly uncertain world, this is The Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security.
I'm Alex Dibble, today joined by Toby Gillis.
Israel and Iran spent the weekend locked in combat.
Iran's retaliation for Israel's attacks have had limited impact,
but it's still unclear how much damage has been done to Tehran's nuclear programme.
In the meantime, any imminent ceasefire looks unlikely.
Our guest today is Ali Ansari, Professor of Iranian History at the University of Sinai.
Andrews.
Ali, Donald Trump has urged both sides to do a deal.
Can you think of a circumstance in which Iran would do one?
Well, I mean,
there is always the possibility that they may realise that the sort of damage being inflicted on the wider Iranian political economy and also,
you know, the level of casualties that are being inflicted,
which I have to say, as far as the Israelis concerned, it's, I think,
very counterproductive of them to hit residential sites, if that's indeed what they're doing.
It is possible that they will come.
They will seek some sort of way out because they'll see that the regime is under deep, deep threat.
Not only that, also the country and the infrastructure of the country is getting a lot of damage.
So there is a possibility that they will come to some sort of compromise.