2025-06-16
38 分钟You're listening to How to Be a Better Human.
I am your host, Chris Duffy.
Today's guest, Debbie Millman,
is one of the most acclaimed and talented podcasters around.
You know her from her fantastic Design Matters podcast,
but she's also an incredible artist,
an author, an illustrator,
an educator, and so much more.
We're going to be talking with Debbie about how to stay curious,
how to grow as an artist,
and how to design the arc of a creative life.
That is a question that Debbie has been investigating for more than 20 years on her show,
Design Matters.
And it's one that has lessons for people in all phases of their life.
I cannot tell you how much I have taken away from listening to Debbie's show and from learning from her.
So to start us off,
here is a clip from a Design Matters episode.
This was a live event that they did at the Green Space in NYC.
And at this event,
Debbie is being interviewed by her wife,