Was there an idyllic time before carnivores?

在肉食动物之前,有过一个田园诗般的时代吗?

CrowdScience

2025-06-14

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Was there ever a time when life on earth was peaceful? Free of violence? No predators, no prey, just... vibes? Or has nature always been 'Red in Tooth and Claw'? Have we always been eating each other? Our listener Scott sent us on a quest to discover the origins of predators and prey, and to find out what all this ‘eat or be eaten’ stuff is really about. Taking us back to the very dawn of life on earth, Professor Susannah Porter from the University of Santa Barbara lets Alex peer into an extraordinary world of microscopic warfare. It’s a dog-eat-dog (or, microbe-dissolve-microbe) world, with single celled organisms doing battle with each other. For billions of years, this was life on earth! Tiny, violent, and completely fascinating. But what about bigger creatures? More complex ones - animals? Speeding forward several billion years, Alex arrives in the Ediacaran Period – a time of unusual tranquility, where strange, plant-like animals lived in relative peace. At the Natural History Museum in Oxford, UK, palaeontologist Dr Frankie Dunn shows him around. So where did real predators come from, then? Alex is joined by Dr Imran Rahman as he ushers in one of the most extraordinary periods in Earth’s history – the magnificently named Cambrian Explosion! Here we find real predators, with teeth, claws, and impressive hunting appendages. Through the fossil record, we can see an arms race developing – as predators get more sophisticated, so does their prey. It’s ON. Finally, Alex wonders if our own evolution, shaped as it has been by this predator-prey arms race, might have been very different without the threat of being chomped. Professor Lynne Isbell from the University of California, Davis takes Alex on a trip into our primate past, and tackles one of our most fearsome predators: snakes. Presenter: Alex Lathbridge Producer: Emily Knight Series Producer: Ben Motley
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  • Life is cruel.

  • There were things eating other things.

  • There was predator-prey relationships going back potentially a billion years or more.

  • Nature is famously unforgiving.

  • The predators act as a culling agent and then the ones that remain are better able to deal with the predator.

  • That's what natural selection is about.

  • Predators relentlessly chasing down their prey.

  • There's all sorts of warfare that's going on in these ecosystems that we're not even aware of.

  • Life, as the philosopher Thomas Hobbes noted, is nasty, brutish and short.

  • It was probably a pretty hellish place to be at times.

  • I'm Alex Lathbridge and this is Crowd Science from the BBC World Service,

  • the show that answers your science questions about the infinite mystery of life on Earth and our place in it.

  • And in this episode, We've been wondering if life really has to be quite as brutal,

  • quite as violent as it is.

  • And that's because we received a question from Scott, who's been wondering the same thing.

  • He wants to know, was there ever a time when there were no carnivores and was it idyllic?

  • To try and find out, I'm going back to the very, very beginning.

  • Before there was life, there were rocks.

  • There would have been an ocean, we think, really early on,

  • and not a lot of land exposed above that ocean.