Trump thinks again about nuclear sub deal

特朗普再次考虑核潜艇交易

World in 10

2025-06-12

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A Trump defence official says the US will review the AUKUS deal to see whether it fits the ‘America First’ agenda. That Biden-era agreement will see the UK and Australia develop new nuclear submarines with the US, while Washington will sell five current models to Australia. Ship-building specialist Trevor Taylor explains why officials in London and Canberra shouldn’t panic yet - and the likelihood of the US pulling out entirely is low. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more: www.youtube.com/@ListenToTimesRadio  Read more: www.thetimes.com  Picture: Getty Images Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to The World in 10.

  • In an increasingly uncertain world,

  • this is The Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security.

  • Today with me, Tom Noonan and Toby Seeley.

  • The AUKUS nuclear submarine deal between the US,

  • the UK and Australia was signed back in 2021.

  • It was hailed at the time by the governments of all three countries as a key agreement to renew Western naval power and improve their cooperation against the growing threats of Russia and China.

  • The idea is that all three would work together to develop and build a new class of nuclear-powered submarine.

  • In the meantime,

  • the US would sell as many as five Virginia-class submarines to Australia to replenish its ageing fleet.

  • Now, however,

  • Donald Trump's Defence Department has announced a review of this Biden-era deal,

  • with an official calling it crazy, given warnings that China might attack Taiwan.

  • So, why is Trump thinking again about this deal?

  • What exactly are the US's misgivings,

  • and should officials in London and Canberra be as anxious as they're reported to be?

  • Our guest today is Trevor Taylor,

  • a specialist in shipbuilding at the Royal United Services Institute in London.

  • Trevor, what do we know about this US review, and specifically,

  • do we know exactly what it is about AUKUS that the Trump administration is now worried about?