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In an increasingly uncertain world,
this is The Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security.
Today with me, Laura Cook and Tom Noonan.
How could Russia test NATO's resolve?
Maybe it'll be with tanks rolling across the border.
Or maybe it'll be less obvious than that.
That second, less flashy approach is certainly the view of Germany's head of intelligence.
Bruno Kahl is warning that Russia could test NATO by sending soldiers in civilian clothing,
known as Little Green Men,
to Estonia like they did in Crimea when they annexed the peninsula in 2014.
To discuss how likely this is and what would happen next is our guest today,
Emily Ferris, a Russia specialist from the Royal United Services Institute in London.