Meet the boss: Wendy Sherman, diplomat

会见老板:文迪·谢尔曼,外交官

Boss Class from The Economist

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2025-06-02

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第 2 季 第 8 集

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America's top negotiator in the 2015 Iran nuclear deal describes how she reached an agreement with a sworn adversary.  To listen to the full series, subscribe to Economist Podcasts+. https://subscribenow.economist.com/podcasts-plus
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  • You know,

  • if you'd asked me when I was a teenager

  • if I was going to end up negotiating across the table with the Iranians or the North Koreans or folks in the Middle East or elsewhere in the world,

  • I would have laughed at you.

  • Wendy Sherman has done all that and more as one of the most senior American diplomats of the past three decades.

  • She served under Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

  • And most recently, she was Deputy Secretary of State in the Biden administration.

  • She has sat across the table from America's sworn adversaries, looking for common ground.

  • It's not a career Sherman expected for herself.

  • Her formal training was in social work.

  • I'm still a social worker.

  • I'm still an organizer.

  • My caseload just changed over the years from child welfare to American politics to diplomacy.

  • In 2015, Sherman was the lead negotiator on one of America's most contentious deals.

  • Under President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry,

  • she helped bring about the Iran nuclear deal,